Wednesday, February 15, 2012

Lunch at School

Whether I'm eating it, growing it, or just thinking about it, food is on my mind a lot.  So, after having been asked by Kat, and having recently read Fed Up With Lunch: The School Lunch Project, and because it was Valentine's Day, I decided to have lunch with Kat at school yesterday.

I knew I shouldn't expect the homemade whole wheat dinner rolls or chicken and noodles that were standards in my school cafeteria growing up.  I doubted I should even expect made-from-scratch breads like those we made when I was a substitute lunch lady a few years ago.  Nor did I think that I'd be staring down at a handful of nasty paper and cellophane microwave meals like those pictured in Fed Up With Lunch.  What I ended up with was just what I expected -- something in the middle.

I was all set for an entree of biscuits and sausage gravy.  That's not one of their usual lunch offerings, but I like B&G much better than a toasted cheese sandwich, a hot dog or a "sunbutter" and jelly sandwich, which were my other options. 

As it turned out, because of the snow day, Monday's menu was served instead of Tuesday's.  My new choices were a breaded chicken patty on a bun, "Italian Dunkers", a hot dog or the sunbutter sandwich.  I chose the Dunkers, which were two halves of a hot dog bun with mozzarella cheese melted over them and spaghetti sauce for dipping.  I decided to call them "almost breadsticks".  With them I was offered canned peas and whatever I wanted from the salad bar.  I said yes to the peas, and chose lettuce salad and half an orange from the bar.  I also chose 2% milk; other milk choices were fat-free chocolate or strawberry.  The only dressing available for my salad was ranch.

Kat was a few people ahead of me in line.  When I caught up with her at the table, I saw that she had also chosen the Italian Dunkers, but her only other picks were strawberry milk and a whole banana.  Not good enough, but it wasn't the school's fault. Several veggies had been offered but she didn't take them.

As we ate, I asked Kat what would happen if she had only picked the main entree, and she said she also had to chose one fruit or veggie and one milk.  I asked her what would happen if she wanted a lot of the food from the salad bar.  She said that she could have a total of 5 items, including the main dish and her milk.  (At older grade levels, these limits increase, I think.)

Kat and I both ate everything on our plates.  I didn't especially enjoy the "almost breadsticks", and the peas were like any other canned peas.  On the other hand, the items on the salad bar were all very fresh and tasty.  The ranch dressing was overly sweet and reminded me more of bottled coleslaw dressing than ranch.  I would have preferred whole milk over 2%, but whatever. 

I paid $3.15 for my meal and felt like, in terms of quantity, I got a fair shake.  I left feeling comfortably full.  Kat's meal was $2.05.  I didn't think she had two dollars worth of food on her plate, but I'm sure on other days she does.

The meal wasn't especially healthy, but it didn't disgust me, either.  What did disgust me was that Kat had only 15 minutes to eat.  I couldn't finish my meal that quickly and sat for another 5 minutes after she left to finish up.  I don't think that is nearly enough time for students to eat their lunch. 

But wait...this was just something that happened today.  Kat is in a group of four students who are studying for some upcoming standardized tests.  For some reason, one of the boys in the group thought it was time for them to head to their study group 10 minutes early.  I would have thought a staff member would escort them, but I guess they are on their own for this activity.  In any event, I learned that lunch sessions are all 25 minutes long.  That's much more reasonable than 15 minutes.

In general, I think the school lunches could be better, but I don't think I'll deny Kat her favorites, which only come up about once a week.  She asks to take her lunch the rest of the time.

What do you think? Do you think this is an absolutely awful lunch or, like me, do you think it's fairly mediocre? 

If you have kids in school, do you let them eat the hot lunch, and if so, what kinds of things are served?

Does your school offer a salad bar, and if so, do your kids eat from it?  It seemed to me that a lot kids were choosing a banana or some canned peaches for their side item, but little else. 

Do your kids have enough time to eat and digest properly? 

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All I have to say on this subject that I think Johnny has gained weight since being in public school where he now buys his lunch. Fred used to pack the kids lunches for school while they were in Catholic school. It's a big argument between us. m.
1 reply · active 685 weeks ago
I guess I could see that happening (the weight gain). Parents like us (whatever that means) probably pack a fairly healthy lunch, but I bet there are plenty of kids in schools who bring atrocious lunches from home. Its sad, but for kids in families who don't know or don't care, I guess school lunch becomes a better option for their nutritional needs.
I think our school lunches could be healthier but that doesn't mean that kids would eat them. Nick rarely buys lunch. He tends to be drawn to certain items on the menu - chicken patty on a bun, Sunchips, chicken noodle soup. I'm not so sure he even eats the other items on the menu that day. He picks and chooses what he eats from the lunches I pack too which of course I find wasteful but do I really want him eating more than he wants to?

I think school lunches are unfairly targeted. We ate heavy lunches when I was growing up and we didn't have the problems with weight we have now. We even had dessert served every day (it's very unusual for my son's school to have a real dessert on the menu). We were much more active and we didn't get served snacks outside the home except for on rare occasions.
1 reply · active 685 weeks ago
Kat is drawn to all of the Italian-style dishes, except the pizza. She hates school pizza. She likes the chicken patty on a bun, but not the chicken nuggets. She is never interested in the lunches that sound good to me, like chicken pot pie or beefy nachos.

We always had a recess right after lunch, which in theory was to run off some of the calories and just to "get out our wiggles". In Fed Up With Lunch, though, the author complained that her school didn't have ANY recess time and she proposed that schools should have a recess BEFORE lunch in order to build appetite so that the students would be more likely to eat some of their veggies. I don't know if she has a valid point or not, but I do think children in lower grades need at least one recess. Kat has two recesses daily and a PE class every third day.
think that it is wonderful that you went to the school to check things out!!!! You are wonderful.
I think things have gotten better since I was in school. I never ate school lunches. The smell from the cafeteria made me gag when I was a kid. It always smelled like pike in there. Gross.
1 reply · active 685 weeks ago
Ah, fish day at school did permeate the entire building. We had breaded fish planks, homemade mac and cheese, spinach and apple crisp every single time fish was on the menu, but it was a favorite for most kids.

I ate a school lunch with my daughter one time, too. It was EXACTLY like the lunches I had in school. Kat's are not as good.
Chloe's are actually pretty good, they don't change very often tho so this two year old photo of her menu http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_uHXNeHl6PG8/S5vVcUWRauI... is still a good example of what's on offer. There isn't a salad bar in school but they have fresh fruit options and with dessert often being puddingy or icy affairs chloe often takes grapes or pineapple or whatever instead. She eats all the veg on her plate so long as its fresh so it means I can bulk her snack with toms or carrot sticks if I see peas or sweetcorn on the menu (almost always frozen) or "mixed" veg (canned).

Timewise they're left to their own devices and told they can go outside as soon as they're finished so I know she's bound to be bolting her food a couple of times a week just to get out in the sun.

I don't pay for her lunches at the minute because of tax credits but they're normally £2.30 (about $3.60) so a bit pricey over a whole week or month but ok for the days when her favs are on.
2 replies · active 685 weeks ago
Wow. Chloe's menu sounds much better than Kat's, at least to me. I'm not sure she'd agree, though.

Vegetables are difficult for Kat. We encourage her to eat them, and we insist she take at least one bite of every dish I make at mealtime, but we don't force any food. She takes her one bite, but doesn't usually ask for more than that.

She will eat iceberg lettuce, canned green beans and frozen or fresh corn without argument. She will sometimes eat winter squash, spaghetti squash, carrots (cooked or raw) and cucumbers without much fuss. She's coming around to onions and spinach that are ingredients in other dishes, but not by themselves. Everything else is a struggle right now.
Veg is always tricky here. Fruit she'll eat until it comes out of her ears. Anything leafy apart from little gem lettuce is a no go, she likes fresh peas and carrots because she's griwn them and fresh corn, roasted root veg she loves because they're sweet and sometimes peppers but its a case of hiding everything else:)

I'd be chuffed to bits if I could sit down to anything on that menu without lifting a finger.
They're definitely rushed at the schools over here. I always wondered what the Italian dunkers were. I see it on the menu every once in a while. My kids get the school lunches. Sending lunch from home would end up not being very creative... At least this way, they have some variety.
1 reply · active 685 weeks ago
I get it, Val. I hate having the same meals over and over again.

When I was growing up, we ALWAYS bought the hot lunch. There would be one week during each school year when my mom would let us take our lunch, and it was always bologna sandwiches, little bags of chips, Little Debbies, etc., that we didn't normally get to have. It was trouble for my mom to pack and cost more than the school lunch, which was why it didn't happen often. I don't remember very many students packing a lunch. Almost all of us at cafeteria food.
Hmmm hot topic, no I don't let my girls eat at school, I did once or twice for the holiday meals (hot turkey potatoes veggie) but other than that no. So much processed crap, sorry I really don't like them eating these foods. I prefer to pack and see they are getting nutritious choices. They do not have much time to eat at all either. :-( It's rush, rush, rush, Hayley complains about it all the time. I could write a book on this one, lol! :-)
3 replies · active 684 weeks ago
Does your school serve a lot of heavily processed foods? Kat's serves quite a few, I think, in the form of chicken nuggets, instant mashed potatoes and that kind of thing, but nothing as disgusting as this lunch (from the Fed Up With Lunch blog).

I think that it still varies from district to district. I subbed in the kitchen of two different rural KS school districts when I lived there in 2001. At that time, both of those districts were still baking all the bread and buns from scratch and making things like chicken and noodles somewhat from scratch (frozen noodles, canned chicken...but they still combined the ingredients and controlled the seasoning). Both schools had salad bars, too, at all grade levels. That's something we never had in school.
Yes, lots of processed foods and we try to avoid canned items as much as possible due to additives and sodium. I like Jamie oliver's ideas but so many are against hime here. I don't understand why when he is just trying to promote healthy eating. Kids are addicted to sugars and bad foods, its sad the way this is going in our schools. I think she has a premade salad option but again....I'm not a fan due to freshness issues, etc. I know I sound so picky but my children's health is so important and I have been researching a lot lately. I haven't always made perfect choices especially for myself, but I have changed that in many ways and I'm teaching my girls now to set them up for a life of healthy eating. I'll have to check out that link. :-)
I admit that I haven't taken time to read about all of Jamie Oliver's ideas, but what I have read has been positive. I should probably look into it further.
I still send my kids with a sack lunch to college! :) But that is because it is so hard to find dairy-free, gluten-free food on a college campus. My daughter was excited to discover that the medical school cafeteria offers gluten-free meals and offers almond milk, but she says it is much more frugal to take a sack lunch, which it is especially if it comes from mom's groceries. :)
1 reply · active 684 weeks ago
If you have children who are good stewards of both their nutrition and their money, then you're definitely doing something right! :)

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